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Old 01-11-05, 12:17 PM   #1
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Now before I delve into the topic a little I want everyone to remember that Cliff's thoughts in this news post are his own and don't necessarily reflect Epic's thoughts. With all of the hub-bub about Steam and it's fairly successful re-launch and the added recent fixes I wondered what Cliff's thoughts were. Here is our convo.


What are your thoughts on Steam's success. Do you think it will have an affect on the way big Devs (such as Epic) distribute their games?

I honestly haven't seen any concrete numbers to support Steam's success. It most certainly seems like the ideal venue for a developer especially an independent one to distribute their games. Even if Steam is a big success it'll still be 5 years minimum before it becomes the norm. Halo2 and GTA4 recently showed how big of a blockbuster a game still can be at retail.
Is he forgetting that Halo 2 and GTA4 are console games? Not a very good comparision IMO.
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Old 01-11-05, 01:02 PM   #2
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Yea those are console games, but didn't they have higher sell through figures for those games? Meaning that for a really popular title the inferstructure cost may be too high? I mean every body b*tch when steam had its hiccups during HL2 first days. Can you imagine the issues that would have shown had HL2 had has manny steam users as they did for Halo2/GTA4?
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Old 01-11-05, 01:02 PM   #3
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he's probably talking about raw sales numbers...

halo 2 and GTA:SA sold like hot cakes...
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Old 01-11-05, 02:16 PM   #4
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I still don't think you can compare console to PC.

I mean...anyone with a PS2 can buy GTA:SA and play it. You don't need any more/special hardware to do so.

I could buy HL2 with a Celeron 400MHz, 128MB RAM and integrated 8MB video card...but what would the point be? I couldn't play it. Just having a computer does not mean that you can play any given game like a console does.
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Old 01-11-05, 05:23 PM   #5
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I think what Jakup's point was, there are alot less Console Game Pirates as there are PC Game Pirates.
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Old 01-11-05, 06:43 PM   #6
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I think what Jakup's point was, there are alot less Console Game Pirates as there are PC Game Pirates.
What does that have to do with anything? Piracy was never even mentioned...he is talking about a pure sales perspective.
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Well the idea of steam is to prevent piracy. And we all know that Halo 2 and GTA:SA were both leaked and pirated before it was released. It's more of a combination of both aspects of Sales and Anti-Piracy being mentioned.
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Well the idea of steam is to prevent piracy. And we all know that Halo 2 and GTA:SA were both leaked and pirated before it was released. It's more of a combination of both aspects of Sales and Anti-Piracy being mentioned.
Yet both still managed to outsell HL2. I think piracy is used as a scapegoat nowadays.
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Both GTA and Halo2 were also console games, therefore being fed to a broader audience that Hl2 was. You can't say no, because for every one thing you heard about Hl2 on TV, you heard 5 times as much stuff about the other two games, and so much hype was brought onto those games from their elder brothers that it'd be nearly impossible for Hl2 to compete with them.
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Both GTA and Halo2 were also console games, therefore being fed to a broader audience that Hl2 was. You can't say no, because for every one thing you heard about Hl2 on TV, you heard 5 times as much stuff about the other two games, and so much hype was brought onto those games from their elder brothers that it'd be nearly impossible for Hl2 to compete with them.
Agreed. I see SA commercials during every break on MTV and Comedy Central.

I've never seen an HL2 commercial.
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Agreed. I see SA commercials during every break on MTV and Comedy Central.

I've never seen an HL2 commercial.
Dont worry your not missing much. We had the commercial over here for about a week. 1 whole week people
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Dont worry your not missing much. We had the commercial over here for about a week. 1 whole week people
wait, there were commercials for HL2?
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