CliffyB On Steam

jAkUp · 01-11-05, 12:17 PM

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Now before I delve into the topic a little I want everyone to remember that Cliff's thoughts in this news post are his own and don't necessarily reflect Epic's thoughts. With all of the hub-bub about Steam and it's fairly successful re-launch and the added recent fixes I wondered what Cliff's thoughts were. Here is our convo.

What are your thoughts on Steam's success. Do you think it will have an affect on the way big Devs (such as Epic) distribute their games?

I honestly haven't seen any concrete numbers to support Steam's success. It most certainly seems like the ideal venue for a developer especially an independent one to distribute their games. Even if Steam is a big success it'll still be 5 years minimum before it becomes the norm. Halo2 and GTA4 recently showed how big of a blockbuster a game still can be at retail.

Is he forgetting that Halo 2 and GTA4 are console games? Not a very good comparision IMO.

jbirney · 01-11-05, 01:02 PM

Yea those are console games, but didn't they have higher sell through figures for those games? Meaning that for a really popular title the inferstructure cost may be too high? I mean every body b*tch when steam had its hiccups during HL2 first days. Can you imagine the issues that would have shown had HL2 had has manny steam users as they did for Halo2/GTA4?

Sazar · 01-11-05, 01:02 PM

he's probably talking about raw sales numbers...

halo 2 and GTA:SA sold like hot cakes...

superklye · 01-11-05, 02:16 PM

I still don't think you can compare console to PC.

I mean...anyone with a PS2 can buy GTA:SA and play it. You don't need any more/special hardware to do so.

I could buy HL2 with a Celeron 400MHz, 128MB RAM and integrated 8MB video card...but what would the point be? I couldn't play it. Just having a computer does not mean that you can play any given game like a console does.

**WeReWoLf** · 01-11-05, 05:23 PM

I think what Jakup's point was, there are alot less Console Game Pirates as there are PC Game Pirates.

superklye · 01-11-05, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WeReWoLf5900

I think what Jakup's point was, there are alot less Console Game Pirates as there are PC Game Pirates.

What does that have to do with anything? Piracy was never even mentioned...he is talking about a pure sales perspective.

**WeReWoLf** · 01-11-05, 06:52 PM

Well the idea of steam is to prevent piracy. And we all know that Halo 2 and GTA:SA were both leaked and pirated before it was released. It's more of a combination of both aspects of Sales and Anti-Piracy being mentioned.

Vagrant Zero · 01-11-05, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WeReWoLf5900

Well the idea of steam is to prevent piracy. And we all know that Halo 2 and GTA:SA were both leaked and pirated before it was released. It's more of a combination of both aspects of Sales and Anti-Piracy being mentioned.

Yet both still managed to outsell HL2. I think piracy is used as a scapegoat nowadays.

Sorrow · 01-11-05, 09:40 PM

Both GTA and Halo2 were also console games, therefore being fed to a broader audience that Hl2 was. You can't say no, because for every one thing you heard about Hl2 on TV, you heard 5 times as much stuff about the other two games, and so much hype was brought onto those games from their elder brothers that it'd be nearly impossible for Hl2 to compete with them.

superklye · 01-11-05, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorrow

Both GTA and Halo2 were also console games, therefore being fed to a broader audience that Hl2 was. You can't say no, because for every one thing you heard about Hl2 on TV, you heard 5 times as much stuff about the other two games, and so much hype was brought onto those games from their elder brothers that it'd be nearly impossible for Hl2 to compete with them.

Agreed. I see SA commercials during every break on MTV and Comedy Central.

I've never seen an HL2 commercial.

Slyder · 01-12-05, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by superklye

Agreed. I see SA commercials during every break on MTV and Comedy Central.

I've never seen an HL2 commercial.

Dont worry your not missing much. We had the commercial over here for about a week. 1 whole week people

superklye · 01-12-05, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyder

Dont worry your not missing much. We had the commercial over here for about a week. 1 whole week people

wait, there were commercials for HL2?

01-11-05, 01:02 PM	#2
jbirney Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,430	Re: CliffyB On Steam Yea those are console games, but didn't they have higher sell through figures for those games? Meaning that for a really popular title the inferstructure cost may be too high? I mean every body b*tch when steam had its hiccups during HL2 first days. Can you imagine the issues that would have shown had HL2 had has manny steam users as they did for Halo2/GTA4?

01-11-05, 01:02 PM	#3
Sazar Sayonara !!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 9,297	Re: CliffyB On Steam he's probably talking about raw sales numbers... halo 2 and GTA:SA sold like hot cakes... __________________ Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home - Is it in you?

01-11-05, 02:16 PM	#4
superklye Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MKE Posts: 13,629	Re: CliffyB On Steam I still don't think you can compare console to PC. I mean...anyone with a PS2 can buy GTA:SA and play it. You don't need any more/special hardware to do so. I could buy HL2 with a Celeron 400MHz, 128MB RAM and integrated 8MB video card...but what would the point be? I couldn't play it. Just having a computer does not mean that you can play any given game like a console does.

01-11-05, 05:23 PM	#5
WeReWoLf Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 5,013	Re: CliffyB On Steam I think what Jakup's point was, there are alot less Console Game Pirates as there are PC Game Pirates.

01-11-05, 06:52 PM	#7
WeReWoLf Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 5,013	Re: CliffyB On Steam Well the idea of steam is to prevent piracy. And we all know that Halo 2 and GTA:SA were both leaked and pirated before it was released. It's more of a combination of both aspects of Sales and Anti-Piracy being mentioned.

01-11-05, 09:40 PM	#9
Sorrow First Person Ownage Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 492	Re: CliffyB On Steam Both GTA and Halo2 were also console games, therefore being fed to a broader audience that Hl2 was. You can't say no, because for every one thing you heard about Hl2 on TV, you heard 5 times as much stuff about the other two games, and so much hype was brought onto those games from their elder brothers that it'd be nearly impossible for Hl2 to compete with them. __________________ If at first you don't succeed... redefine success. AMD 64 3000+ (Newcastle) @ 2.25ghz Gigabyte 6800GT @ 375/1085 Corsair 512x2 DDR400 RAM Soltek nf3 150 mobo Currently playing: --Everquest II(Activated!), WoW (Cancelled), Counter-Strike: Source http://miniprofile.xfire.com/s0rr0ws.png

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