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Old 10-19-02, 07:15 PM   #1
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Unhappy Hauppauge Wintv PCI + MSI TNT2 = infinite Loop w/newish drivers (e.g. 31.82, 31.87)

Hello All,
I'm a newbie to this forum. I just did a quick search looking for other info regarding the infinite loop problem I am having, and I came accross Ripper’s post, "Get out foul spirit -- Death to the Infinite Loop (and DET 40 comments)".

I'm not 100% sure if I am experiencing the same problem, so here is a quick description. My crash is precipitated by running my wintv2k application, which is the application for displaying TV on my computer from my Hauppauge Wintv PCI card.

While just running wintv2k has caused a crash, the sure-fire way to lock up the system is after launching wintv2k, to resize the TV window with any speed at all. The display would then freeze, though the audio would continue to play through. After approximately a 10 second delay, windows XP would come back and refresh into a "safe mode looking display scenario," and say it had recovered from as serious error (giving me an opportunity to save any open work and restart my computer.)

I didn't get any error reporting wizard after restarting which sort of surprised me, but when checking the event viewer system log I found the following, which I have copied and pasted:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: nv
Event Category: None
Event ID: 108
Date: 9/16/2002
Time: 2:29:01 PM
User: N/A
Computer: EL-MACHINO
Description:
The driver nv4_disp for the display device \Device\Video0 got stuck in an infinite loop. This usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your hardware device vendor for any driver updates.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 03 00 46 00 ......F.
0008: 00 00 00 00 6c 00 04 c0 ....l..À
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

I know the error occurred with version 30.82 straight from nvidia, as well as the 30.87 off microsoft-update. The same problem also plagued the latest release from my hardware manufacturer MSI. The 30.00 driver here http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...st.php?part=2, which I assume are an nvidia reference driver with some additional display control panel tabs for overclocking etc. I'm not sure which other driver versions get me in trouble with this infinite loop, but remembering that 21.83 was a stable driver, I rolled back to that one, and the problems are solved. Looking at the forums here, I see 4x.xx driver versions, which I haven't tried and didn't know existed. Are these known to fix the inf. loop problems? I guess my REAL question is, does Nvidia already know about my problem, and have they addressed it, or am I dealing with hardware that is falling off the edge of what they support? Each new driver version I try has the same problem, is there a fix for this in a future release, or am I stuck using the older 21.83 because they introduced some “feature” that causes me grief, that they have no intentions of removing? Basically I’m dealing with an issue where using my TV card (Model 61201 Rev. B226 BT878) causes my video card (MS8807 TNT2 16meg) to crash the system with the newer general release WHQL drivers. Is there really no way to report driver bugs directly to nvidia? It looks like bug submission is only through the hardware manufacturer (MSI for this card)? I’ve reported the problem to them, but received no reply.

Here is my full hardware config:
OS & Version = Win XP Ver 2002 Service Pack 1
CPU Type = Pentium III 450
Motherboard = AOpen AX6BC
BIOS/Firmware = R2.57
Memory size = DIMM1 256MB PC133 stick
DIMM2 128MB PC100 stick
IDE 1 Channel = MASTER HDD Seagate ST380021A (Barracuda ATA IV)
SLAVE HDD Western Digital WDC WD205BA
IDE 2 Channel = CDROM, TOSHIBA XM-6202B

PCI:
Graphics card: MSI (Nvidia Based) - MS8807 TNT2 16meg 3d AG hantom ver 1a
Sound card: Creative Labs - PCI 512
TV/Vid capture card: Hauppauge Win TV Model 61201 Rev. B226 BT878
SCSI CARD: Adaptec AHA-2930CU
Network Card: Linksys LNE100TX (LC82C169)

ISA Modem: 3COM / USROBOTIC 56k Data/Fax Modem Product ID 66178781

PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard:
Logitech Wheel Mouse model (M-C48)
Memorex TS1000 keyboard (has win98 power, sleep, and wake up keys)

Monitor - Viewsonic e773
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Old 10-20-02, 10:58 AM   #2
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Hi.

I also have a Hauppage card, BX chipset and WinXP. On my GF3 the following drivers work 100% for me: 29.42 & 40.52

Haven't tried any others with this specific app.
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Old 10-20-02, 02:21 PM   #3
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Question anybody else out there having inf loop with 3x.xx drivers?

40.52 are betas right? Perhaps when those go official, I'll try them and they will solve this problem then. Perhaps the problem was introduced after 29.42, and those work just as well as my 21.83. But every 3x.xx release I have tried gave me inf. loop when I fire up the software for the TV card. I don't wish these problems on you, otherwise I would ask you to try out a 3x.xx release, so as I would have some more evidence that it was those drivers at fault and not my hardware.. Hopefully some other folk out there in our similar situation could reply and let me know if you have any experience with this problem.
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Old 10-20-02, 03:54 PM   #4
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Heh, I don't feel like trying the 3xxx series since the 40.52's work 100% for me. I'm gonna stick with these since they are problemfree and perform great. I was considering 40.72 but why mess with the setup when it works great, right?
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Old 10-20-02, 09:22 PM   #5
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perhaps i'll have to try those betas.. i hadn't looked around for them yet.. I suppose they won't be hard to find.. I think I spotted some links.

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Old 10-20-02, 10:14 PM   #6
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Sure, go ahead and give 'em a try. 40.72 is a WHQL candidate release btw.

Here's one site (among many) you can get the drivers from.
http://www.*********.com/
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