Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread - Page 4

ViN86 · 12-22-11, 02:44 PM

7950/7970 is my next video card upgrade. Should be a nice boost from my (aging) 5870. It will be 2 years old this April.

**Maverick123w** · 12-22-11, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadhog

Still considering buying them now or waiting for a refresh.

I'd wait your system shouldn't have issues running anything.

Rollo · 12-22-11, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed

Don't let tRollo see that.

Don't worry, tRollo only cares about high end desktop discrete. Nothing he sees there concerns him.....

shadow001 · 12-22-11, 07:55 PM

And here i thought you started with the whole market share thing in the other thread...

Anyhow, i see 3 HD7970's in triple crossfire, water cooled and running well north of 1 Ghz, running 3 Dell 27 inch 2560*1440 displays in eyefinity mode, performing quite a bit faster than my 3 GTX580's with 3 screens, running cooler and using less power to boot....That's what i see...

ViN86 · 12-22-11, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by red777star

Blah not really impressed. I believe next Nvidia card will bring much more performance to the table.

Based on... what?

**MUYA** · 12-22-11, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ViN86

Based on... what?

common sense maybe?

suffice to say, the next gen flagship based on Keplar should outperform the 580 GTX by some decent bit. Keplar is not just a die shrink from the rumours going round.

it would not make sense to ship flagship keplar based desktop cards that under perform....

a reasonable guestimate would be on par or better than 7970...but thats well into Q1 next year

Johnny C · 12-22-11, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MUYA

common sense maybe?

suffice to say, the next gen flagship based on Keplar should outperform the 580 GTX by some decent bit. Keplar is not just a die shrink from the rumours going round.

it would not make sense to ship flagship keplar based desktop cards that under perform....

a reasonable guestimate would be on par or better than 7970...but thats well into Q3 next year

Fixe

**MUYA** · 12-22-11, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny C

Fixed

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Ninja Prime · 12-23-11, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MUYA

common sense maybe?

suffice to say, the next gen flagship based on Keplar should outperform the 580 GTX by some decent bit. Keplar is not just a die shrink from the rumours going round.

it would not make sense to ship flagship keplar based desktop cards that under perform....

a reasonable guestimate would be on par or better than 7970...but thats well into Q1 next year

Current rumors I've heard actually are saying Kepler is somewhat of a copy of AMDs GCN design in the 7970, as its a better compute solution in many ways. Also supposedly they've got rid of the hot-clock and shaders run at the core clock. Take it all with a grain of salt though, this early...

**K007** · 12-23-11, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Prime

Do you even read what you write? If the kepler is 50% faster than the 580 then its the same amount faster than 6970 -> 7970 is, which you were just whining that "wasn't impressive."

Also it would mean Kepler is only 20-25% faster than 7970, which is actually slightly less than 7970 is faster than the 580, which again, you said isn't impressive.

LOL. So, in your words, using your logic, Kepler will be less impressive than 7970.

**MUYA** · 12-23-11, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Prime

Current rumors I've heard actually are saying Kepler is somewhat of a copy of AMDs GCN design in the 7970, as its a better compute solution in many ways. Also supposedly they've got rid of the hot-clock and shaders run at the core clock. Take it all with a grain of salt though, this early...

that worries me...better computer but...what does that mean for gaming...diminishing returns?

Rollo · 12-23-11, 07:49 AM

How many here would say this launch was impressive if it was NVIDIA launching this part? Anyone?

Saying this launch is successful is saying "We expect AMD parts to be in second place for most of their lifecycle, they cannot be expected to produce the best GPU!".

Supposedly they had given up the "cheaper, smaller, about as good strategy" here and produced a big monolithic GPU that people wouldn't have to "settle for" according to their press deck. That will be the case exactly the number of days until kepler launches, then it's back to "about as good and cheaper" and from the looks of things this will be more of a 2900XT vs 8800GTX situation. NVIDIA only has to hit 50% faster to be 25-30% faster than this part.

NVIDIA always hits 50% faster on next gen. The bar was just higher for AMD here- to become a market leader they needed to make a part that is 50% faster than their competition's last gen- at least. If they're content to follow and sell for lower margins when their competition launches, they succeeded.

12-22-11, 02:44 PM	#37
ViN86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,486	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread 7950/7970 is my next video card upgrade. Should be a nice boost from my (aging) 5870. It will be 2 years old this April.

12-22-11, 07:55 PM	#40
shadow001 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,526	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread And here i thought you started with the whole market share thing in the other thread... Anyhow, i see 3 HD7970's in triple crossfire, water cooled and running well north of 1 Ghz, running 3 Dell 27 inch 2560*1440 displays in eyefinity mode, performing quite a bit faster than my 3 GTX580's with 3 screens, running cooler and using less power to boot....That's what i see...

12-23-11, 07:49 AM	#48
Rollo Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,719	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread How many here would say this launch was impressive if it was NVIDIA launching this part? Anyone? Saying this launch is successful is saying "We expect AMD parts to be in second place for most of their lifecycle, they cannot be expected to produce the best GPU!". Supposedly they had given up the "cheaper, smaller, about as good strategy" here and produced a big monolithic GPU that people wouldn't have to "settle for" according to their press deck. That will be the case exactly the number of days until kepler launches, then it's back to "about as good and cheaper" and from the looks of things this will be more of a 2900XT vs 8800GTX situation. NVIDIA only has to hit 50% faster to be 25-30% faster than this part. NVIDIA always hits 50% faster on next gen. The bar was just higher for AMD here- to become a market leader they needed to make a part that is 50% faster than their competition's last gen- at least. If they're content to follow and sell for lower margins when their competition launches, they succeeded. __________________ Rig1: intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz 3D Vision Surround Rig 2: intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC [SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member [B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]