Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread - Page 24

**K007** · 01-07-12, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollo

I've posted a lot of data and market speculation about the 7970 in this thread.

Believe it or not, not everyone thinks it's as good of a card as you do. You'll have to deal with that. I don't seem to recall you having many positive things to say about NVIDIA's last high end launch:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...GTX590&page=28

And that you always seem to be in the NVIDIA forums talking smack about NVIDIA cards.

I guess only you are allowed to dislike a video card, eh?

i put you on my ignore list.

later

**bob saget** · 01-07-12, 11:15 PM

that does look terrific.

**bob saget** · 01-07-12, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K007

This looks sexy

http://videocardz.com/30183/xfx-rele...-black-edition

that does look terrific.

I fail

clitosaurus · 01-08-12, 01:26 AM

my upcoming rig will have one of these I reckon.

**K007** · 01-08-12, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by clitosaurus

my upcoming rig will have one of these I reckon.

ure sig looks the same as trollo's..

shadow001 · 01-08-12, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by K007

ure sig looks the same as trollo's..

He got busted.....

clitosaurus · 01-08-12, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by K007

ure sig looks the same as trollo's..

(that's the point)

**K007** · 01-08-12, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by slaWter

But as I said before (that picture/card has been posted already!), coolers like that are just horrible for SLI/CF. I'd say away from those cards and just get one with the reference cooler.

highly doubt he wants to xfire ><!..

why is it bad btw?

Viral · 01-08-12, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by K007

This looks sexy

http://videocardz.com/30183/xfx-rele...-black-edition

XFX Radeon HD 7970 Black Edition 1000MHz

$580USD

With the customer cooler, i am sure you will be able to o/c even more. Looks good to me

. Don't think XFX is in AUS though..

Going to have to wait and see if Gigabyte/Sapphire will have their ones, if not ill just do the custom cooler myself and o/c

Yeah man XFX are in AUS, my friend bought a 5850 Black Ed 2 years ago. Maybe not at some stores but all the stores I buy at sell XFX. With the lifetime warranty they are a great option.

Rollo · 01-08-12, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slaWter

But as I said before (that picture/card has been posted already!), coolers like that are just horrible for SLI/CF. I'd say away from those cards and just get one with the reference cooler.

You are correct, had that problem with my Palit 2GB 560Tis as well.

The EVGA Classified GTX580s have a rear intake design so you can sandwich four of them together.

You can SLi/CF those XFXs if you have a board with 3 PCIE slots though, you'd just put one in the bottom slot and one in the top. That's what I did with the Palits, and what I'm doing with my 580s.

That's the one advantage ATi's mixed CF has- a 6990 plus a 6970 can be spaced and still give you 3 GPU scaling without having to watercool of find specialty cards with rear intakes and cases like Silverstone Ravens.

BTW- I used to run a half height Creative Card for this reason- you might try that or external. I just use the motherboard sound and try to buy motherboards with "decent" sound. (I know it's not as good, but that heat thing is annoying)

Redeemed · 01-08-12, 07:54 AM

I have to be honest- the more I look at this new lineup the more I feel let down. Sure, the 7970 is great when compared to the 6970, the 7970 does very well at higher resolutions, and it is great in crossfire.

However it seems a little under whelming when compared to present-gen nVidia cards. Some posts up Shadow001 posted some numbers of the 7970 against a 580 and it for the most part just barely outpaces the 580. Crossfire of course is untouchable right now, unless compared to dual 580s.

I was expecting more to be honest. I was expecting a far greater lead over the 580 than what the 7970 offers. Honestly I hope this isn't the best AMD has to offer, it'd seem mighty surprising if Kepler doesn't destroy this GPU. From my experience nVidia typically comes close to doubling previous gen performance with every new GPU release. So Kepler I would expect to nearly double the performance of a 580. I'd say 50% - 75% increase over a 580 and there's no way a 7970 can match that even with mature drivers.

No, I'm hoping AMD has something up there sleeves. This just seems like they opted to release first instead of focus on having a more competitive product.

Anyhow, a lot of speculation still as Kepler is a ways off. I'm starting to think I won't be buying any new GPU this year. Maybe next year with the 8 series from AMD. Or who knows, maybe I'll find a Kepler that offers GTX 580 performance while be very conservative on the heat and power fronts, for a reasonable price. If so, and even with how much I've been pleased with my recent AMD cards, it'd be back to nVidia for me.

Rollo · 01-08-12, 08:28 AM

Interesting post Redeemed.

The 7970s success depends entirely on how you look at it,IMO:

If you look at it from AMD's perspective as a successor to their 6970, it succeeds in good fashion.

If you look at it from a high end buyers perspective, it fails for the reasons you noted.

These cards are designed over years of time, it's not like AMD knew what the 580s performance would be when they began this chip.

01-07-12, 11:15 PM	#278
bob saget Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vancouver, originally Russia Posts: 23,133	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread that does look terrific.

01-08-12, 01:26 AM	#280
clitosaurus RAWR!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In the Land Before Time Posts: 30	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread my upcoming rig will have one of these I reckon. __________________ Rig1: intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz 3D Vision Surround Rig 2: intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC NVIDIA Focus Group Member NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.

01-08-12, 07:54 AM	#287
Redeemed Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17,986	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread I have to be honest- the more I look at this new lineup the more I feel let down. Sure, the 7970 is great when compared to the 6970, the 7970 does very well at higher resolutions, and it is great in crossfire. However it seems a little under whelming when compared to present-gen nVidia cards. Some posts up Shadow001 posted some numbers of the 7970 against a 580 and it for the most part just barely outpaces the 580. Crossfire of course is untouchable right now, unless compared to dual 580s. I was expecting more to be honest. I was expecting a far greater lead over the 580 than what the 7970 offers. Honestly I hope this isn't the best AMD has to offer, it'd seem mighty surprising if Kepler doesn't destroy this GPU. From my experience nVidia typically comes close to doubling previous gen performance with every new GPU release. So Kepler I would expect to nearly double the performance of a 580. I'd say 50% - 75% increase over a 580 and there's no way a 7970 can match that even with mature drivers. No, I'm hoping AMD has something up there sleeves. This just seems like they opted to release first instead of focus on having a more competitive product. Anyhow, a lot of speculation still as Kepler is a ways off. I'm starting to think I won't be buying any new GPU this year. Maybe next year with the 8 series from AMD. Or who knows, maybe I'll find a Kepler that offers GTX 580 performance while be very conservative on the heat and power fronts, for a reasonable price. If so, and even with how much I've been pleased with my recent AMD cards, it'd be back to nVidia for me.

01-08-12, 08:28 AM	#288
Rollo Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,719	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread Interesting post Redeemed. The 7970s success depends entirely on how you look at it,IMO: If you look at it from AMD's perspective as a successor to their 6970, it succeeds in good fashion. If you look at it from a high end buyers perspective, it fails for the reasons you noted. These cards are designed over years of time, it's not like AMD knew what the 580s performance would be when they began this chip. __________________ Rig1: intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz 3D Vision Surround Rig 2: intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC [SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member [B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]