Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread

[Roadhog]

Originally Posted by Rollo

You weren't. You've just taken it upon yourself to flame NVIDIA and anyone supporting them any chance you see, and promote ATi.

Wow, pot calling the kettle black, how many times have you been banned for bashing ATI every chance you get and beating off to nvidia? LOL. Please show me in this thread where I have flamed nvidia, or tried to promote the 7970. You're the one who goes out of your way to call id beefdozer 2 and whatever else you can come up with.

Originally Posted by Rollo

What's interesting is that all the reviews of the 7970 show the same level of performance difference between the GTX580 and the 6970, and the GTX580 and the 7970. For the last year you've told us about how the difference in performance between the 6970 and the GTX580 is "meaningless" and "not worth paying more money for".

The difference doesn't bother me when I can have a much cheaper and much lower power draw while having 2gb of vram that I actually need. Sorry to tell you, but 1.5GB vram would be limiting for me. I already had problems with the 1gb of my 5870's in nearly every game and I didn't want to go through that again. If I were to have a 1920x1200 monitor, and a single card I would go with the 580 without a doubt.

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by Roadhog

The difference doesn't bother me when I can have a much cheaper and much lower power draw while having 2gb of vram that I actually need. Sorry to tell you, but 1.5GB vram would be limiting for me. I already had problems with the 1gb of my 5870's in nearly every game and I didn't want to go through that again. If I were to have a 1920x1200 monitor, and a single card I would go with the 580 without a doubt.

That's pretty strange. I've used my 1.5GB per GPU GTX590 on my 57X10 rig at 4X AA and on my 25X16 rig at whatever AA I like.

As I recall, you don't even have a 25X16 monitor, and here you are, going on about the necessity of 2GB VRAM for your relatively low res needs.

The only way you need 3 cards or more than 1.5GB of VRAM is to run levels of AA that offer such minute gains no one else really bothers with them. Your rig is as unbalanced as you are- you settle for no surround, no 3d, no physx, no 25X16, and run tri-fire for pointless AA levels.

[Roadhog]

Originally Posted by Rollo

That's pretty strange. I've used my 1.5GB per GPU GTX590 on my 57X10 rig at 4X AA and on my 25X16 rig at whatever AA I like.

As I recall, you don't even have a 25X16 monitor, and here you are, going on about the necessity of 2GB VRAM for your relatively low res needs.

The only way you need 3 cards or more than 1.5GB of VRAM is to run levels of AA that offer such minute gains no one else really bothers with them. Your rig is as unbalanced as you are- you settle for no surround, no 3d, no physx, no 25X16, and run tri-fire for pointless AA levels.

Wow, how did I know you would post a reply like that... You're so predictable it's almost funny.

In BF3 my game will use up to 1900MB of vram depending on the map with only 2xAA. Serious Sam 3 which I just got actually used all of my 2GB of vram with all the settings turned up. Still ran smoothly. Skyrim will also see over 1.5GB of vram with high ugrids and numerous other settings tweaked. Eyefinity doesn't interest me one bit, and neither does physx, and 3d.

My monitor is also 2560x1440, only 409,600 pixels less than 2560x1600, but 1,612,800 pixels more than 1920x1080.

BTW, I run trifire for FPS, with AA levels. I can't play games under 60fps, it makes my eyes hurt, and I can notice substantial input lag.

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Roadhog

Wow, how did I know you would post a reply like that... You're so predictable it's almost funny.

In BF3 my game will use up to 1900MB of vram depending on the map with only 2xAA. Serious Sam 3 which I just got actually used all of my 2GB of vram with all the settings turned up. Still ran smoothly. Skyrim will also see over 1.5GB of vram with high ugrids and numerous other settings tweaked. Eyefinity doesn't interest me one bit, and neither does physx, and 3d.

My monitor is also 2560x1440, only 409,600 pixels less than 2560x1600, but 1,612,800 pixels more than 1920x1080.

BTW, I run trifire for FPS, with AA levels. I can't play games under 60fps, it makes my eyes hurt, and I can notice substantial input lag.

Even 2X AA is completely out of the question for me using 3 displays at 7880*1440 with BF3 and 3 GTX580's....It's strait no AA and it's a rough experience depending on the map( performs worse on the larger maps).


It flies on id software's Rage and on EVE online, and modern warfare or duke nukem forever, so it's basically some of the latest game releases, using the latest game engines, that pushes the setup over the edge....It's just too much at the resolutions i'm playing, but at least i get to find out what the fermi GPU's can and can't do.


And no, i don't think that getting the 3 GB versions of the GTX580 makes sense since i have my doubts that the extra memory will allow to enable 4X AA back at this resolution and keep 50 Fps minimums like it used to at 5760*1200....Right now it can dip to 20 Fps minimums in BF3 with no AA on, so tripling that minimum with 4X AA on to boot, nope just extra memory isn't enough....GPU's with a greater amount of performance will be needed too.


Will 3 water cooled HD7970's be enough?....That's what we're going to find out soon, but they will do a better job that the GTX580's in any case...

[K007]

Guys just ignore him. It's just not worth it.

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by shadow001

Will 3 water cooled HD7970's be enough?....That's what we're going to find out soon, but they will do a better job that the GTX580's in any case...

Yes that extra 16% the 7970s will net you will surely "put you over the top":

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/28.html

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Yes that extra 16% the 7970s will net you will surely "put you over the top":

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/28.html

Are you mentally retarded or just get your personal kick still replying to this thread?....First i don't know what those results have to do with me since i run with 3 screens, second it's been shown that HD7970's scale better than any previous AMD GPU, and at least in some games reaching nearly 100% scaling from 1 to 2 GPU's wich is something i've never seen before in either SLI or crossfire, third i'll be running 3 cards and fourth, they'll be water cooled and overclocked too.


Get your head out of your ass when you reply....There's simply not enough benchmarks out there with my specific setup in mind, so stop with the stupid comments and comparisons...

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by shadow001

Are you mentally retarded or just get your personal kick still replying to this thread?....First i don't know what those results have to do with me since i run with 3 screens, second it's been shown that HD7970's scale better than any previous AMD GPU, and at least in some games reaching nearly 100% scaling from 1 to 2 GPU's wich is something i've never seen before in either SLI or crossfire, third i'll be running 3 cards and fourth, they'll be water cooled and overclocked too.


Get your head out of your ass when you reply....There's simply not enough benchmarks out there with my specific setup in mind, so stop with the stupid comments and comparisons...

Never seen nearly 100% scaling in SLi? Guess you weren't looking:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-4.html

13.5fps X 2 = 27fps SLi= 26fps

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-5.html

90.3 X 2 = 180.6 SLi= 178.4

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-6.html

28.4 X 2 = 56.8 SLi= 55.6

Hmmm- GTX460s were doing almost 100% scaling back in July 2010

[K007]

This looks sexy

http://videocardz.com/30183/xfx-rele...-black-edition

XFX Radeon HD 7970 Black Edition 1000MHz

$580USD

With the customer cooler, i am sure you will be able to o/c even more. Looks good to me . Don't think XFX is in AUS though..

Going to have to wait and see if Gigabyte/Sapphire will have their ones, if not ill just do the custom cooler myself and o/c

[K007]

Can we get an admin to clean this thread up? This flamewar that Rollo is starting on this thread is just plain annoying.

This is about the 7970, if you have it or plan to get it or have information on it..talk about it.

All of Rollo's posts on this thread are directly attacking the 7970. Infact every single post by this guy in the past week is just trolling this thread.

What a complete joke this thread has become. Absolute disgrace

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Never seen nearly 100% scaling in SLi? Guess you weren't looking:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-4.html

13.5fps X 2 = 27fps SLi= 26fps

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-5.html

90.3 X 2 = 180.6 SLi= 178.4

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...80,2694-6.html

28.4 X 2 = 56.8 SLi= 55.6

Hmmm- GTX460s were doing almost 100% scaling back in July 2010

I was talking about high end cards first of all, so who cares about GTX460, and you're still fixating on single screen and that the results on triple screen will be the same, and here's some pictures that says it all, and shows more games to boot...At 2560*1600 of course




43 to 83 Fps from 1 to 2 HD7970's...(100% scaling is 86 fps)



72 to 141 from 1 to 2 HD7970's....(100% scaling would be 144)



25 to 50 Fps from 1 to 2 HD7970's....Perfect 100% scaling.



52 to 101 Fps from 1 to 2 HD7970's....(100% scaling would be 104)



37 to 70 Fps from 1 to 2 HD7970's...(100% scaling would be 74)



33 to 64 Fps from 1 to 2 HD7970's...(100% scaling would be 66)




55 to 108 Fps from one to 2 HD7970's...(100% scaling would be 110 fps).



In the overall scheme of things and considering this is still on the first driver release for the HD7970, the crossfire scaling is impressive in a decent amount of games at 2560*1600, wich is still not equivalent to 7800*1440....

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by K007

Can we get an admin to clean this thread up? This flamewar that Rollo is starting on this thread is just plain annoying.

This is about the 7970, if you have it or plan to get it or have information on it..talk about it.

All of Rollo's posts on this thread are directly attacking the 7970. Infact every single post by this guy in the past week is just trolling this thread.

What a complete joke this thread has become. Absolute disgrace

I've posted a lot of data and market speculation about the 7970 in this thread.

Believe it or not, not everyone thinks it's as good of a card as you do. You'll have to deal with that. I don't seem to recall you having many positive things to say about NVIDIA's last high end launch:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...GTX590&page=28

And that you always seem to be in the NVIDIA forums talking smack about NVIDIA cards.

I guess only you are allowed to dislike a video card, eh?