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Old 12-31-11, 11:35 AM   #121
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Whilst that is true, in all honesty you do need 2 GPU's to run at 5700x1200 or higher at the highest settings for the latest games.

I didn't know that ATI had a setting for 32xAF. That's pretty cool. Do you notice much of a difference.
Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!
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Old 12-31-11, 11:37 AM   #122
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Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!
I'm talking only reference cards...

Why laugh at tessellation level adjustments when you mentioned AO as an nvidia feature? Pot Kettle Black.
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Old 12-31-11, 11:44 AM   #123
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As long as it works with some utilities... You can't say the same about AMD right now.
You can't count third party utilities as a feature...
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Old 12-31-11, 11:56 AM   #124
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If I remember correctly, nV even made a small utility for it. It all started with that one driver set that had this bug, which allowed SSAA instead of Transparancy Supersampling.
They corrected it in the next driver but made a separate utility for it. So it's not part of the NVCP but from nV.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2624

Official or unofficial solution... Fact is, SSAA works with nV in DX9-11 but it doesn't with AMD. This is probably more important than PhysX or SSAO for most gamers.
Well, If you want to count third party utilities, ATI has one for SSAA too. Works pretty good too.

http://www.tommti-systems.de/start.html
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Old 12-31-11, 02:41 PM   #125
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I've gamed a lot with 560Ti 2gb SLi @ 57 x10, a rig that is basically the performance level as a single 7970. It's fine as a budget way to do surround, but definitely tradeoffs in some games, not possible at all in others. I guess the hoped for single gpu surround didn't materialize. (at least from ATi)
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I've gamed a lot with 560Ti 2gb SLi @ 57 x10, a rig that is basically the performance level as a single 7970. It's fine as a budget way to do surround, but definitely tradeoffs in some games, not possible at all in others. I guess the hoped for single gpu surround didn't materialize. (at least from ATi)
Seems pretty good to me.









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Old 12-31-11, 04:41 PM   #127
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Thanks for proving my point Roadie. How many of those benches were at the 57x10 res I mentioned? Like I said the hoped for mythical single gpu surround remains the holy grail.
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Old 12-31-11, 08:12 PM   #130
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Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!
My point was that even though ATI can do Eyefinity on a reference single GPU card and Nvidia doesn't ATM, it not playable at 5700x1200 with all the bells and whistles. In other words, you need a dual GPU system for the latest games out there. So in other words it really is a mute point about surrround needing 2 cards.
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Old 12-31-11, 08:40 PM   #131
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My point was that even though ATI can do Eyefinity on a reference single GPU card and Nvidia doesn't ATM, it not playable at 5700x1200 with all the bells and whistles. In other words, you need a dual GPU system for the latest games out there. So in other words it really is a mute point about surrround needing 2 cards.
Yep I know, just adding to your point. Amazingly enough, I've seen people that harp on the gtx580 "not having enough VRAM for 57x10 gaming" say ATi's single gpu surround is "a huge advantage!". Out of 1.5 gb of VRAM and any existing single gpu surround, I could tell you which is far more limited.(hint: it isn't 1.5gb). Now if I were looking for the fastest card next week, obviously these are it.
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Old 12-31-11, 11:42 PM   #132
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Thanks for proving my point Roadie. How many of those benches were at the 57x10 res I mentioned? Like I said the hoped for mythical single gpu surround remains the holy grail.

Actually if you read the whole article at hard OCP, you'd see that a single HD7970 actually does the holy grail of 5760*1080 at playable frame rates in a fair amount of games, while the GTX 580 was playing at the lower settings You see in those graphs, and the reason for those graphs are to compare all 3 cards at the same settings, and nothing else.


Basically, it's not because a single HD7970 can't do better in 3 monitor mode...
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