Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread - Page 11

Rollo · 12-31-11, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Muppet

Whilst that is true, in all honesty you do need 2 GPU's to run at 5700x1200 or higher at the highest settings for the latest games.

I didn't know that ATI had a setting for 32xAF. That's pretty cool. Do you notice much of a difference.

Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!

**Roadhog** · 12-31-11, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!

I'm talking only reference cards...

Why laugh at tessellation level adjustments when you mentioned AO as an nvidia feature? Pot Kettle Black.

**Roadhog** · 12-31-11, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slaWter

As long as it works with some utilities... You can't say the same about AMD right now.

You can't count third party utilities as a feature...

**Roadhog** · 12-31-11, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slaWter

If I remember correctly, nV even made a small utility for it. It all started with that one driver set that had this bug, which allowed SSAA instead of Transparancy Supersampling.
They corrected it in the next driver but made a separate utility for it. So it's not part of the NVCP but from nV.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2624

Official or unofficial solution... Fact is, SSAA works with nV in DX9-11 but it doesn't with AMD. This is probably more important than PhysX or SSAO for most gamers.

Well, If you want to count third party utilities, ATI has one for SSAA too. Works pretty good too.

http://www.tommti-systems.de/start.html

Rollo · 12-31-11, 02:41 PM

I've gamed a lot with 560Ti 2gb SLi @ 57 x10, a rig that is basically the performance level as a single 7970. It's fine as a budget way to do surround, but definitely tradeoffs in some games, not possible at all in others. I guess the hoped for single gpu surround didn't materialize. (at least from ATi)

**Roadhog** · 12-31-11, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollo

I've gamed a lot with 560Ti 2gb SLi @ 57 x10, a rig that is basically the performance level as a single 7970. It's fine as a budget way to do surround, but definitely tradeoffs in some games, not possible at all in others. I guess the hoped for single gpu surround didn't materialize. (at least from ATi)

Seems pretty good to me.

Rollo · 12-31-11, 04:41 PM

Thanks for proving my point Roadie. How many of those benches were at the 57x10 res I mentioned? Like I said the hoped for mythical single gpu surround remains the holy grail.

**K007** · 12-31-11, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rummy

A few crossfire numbers.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/radeon-hd...e-performance/

wow, impressive xfire numbers

**K007** · 12-31-11, 05:09 PM

Muppet · 12-31-11, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Actually its not even true. Galaxy has a 560ti and GTX580 that do surround on one gpu, and there are several 590s and 295s that do single card surround. LOL at adjustable tesselation as a feature advantage compared to physx!

My point was that even though ATI can do Eyefinity on a reference single GPU card and Nvidia doesn't ATM, it not playable at 5700x1200 with all the bells and whistles. In other words, you need a dual GPU system for the latest games out there. So in other words it really is a mute point about surrround needing 2 cards.

Rollo · 12-31-11, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppet

My point was that even though ATI can do Eyefinity on a reference single GPU card and Nvidia doesn't ATM, it not playable at 5700x1200 with all the bells and whistles. In other words, you need a dual GPU system for the latest games out there. So in other words it really is a mute point about surrround needing 2 cards.

Yep I know, just adding to your point. Amazingly enough, I've seen people that harp on the gtx580 "not having enough VRAM for 57x10 gaming" say ATi's single gpu surround is "a huge advantage!". Out of 1.5 gb of VRAM and any existing single gpu surround, I could tell you which is far more limited.(hint: it isn't 1.5gb). Now if I were looking for the fastest card next week, obviously these are it.

shadow001 · 12-31-11, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Thanks for proving my point Roadie. How many of those benches were at the 57x10 res I mentioned? Like I said the hoped for mythical single gpu surround remains the holy grail.

Actually if you read the whole article at hard OCP, you'd see that a single HD7970 actually does the holy grail of 5760*1080 at playable frame rates in a fair amount of games, while the GTX 580 was playing at the lower settings You see in those graphs, and the reason for those graphs are to compare all 3 cards at the same settings, and nothing else.

Basically, it's not because a single HD7970 can't do better in 3 monitor mode...

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Rollo Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,719	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread I've gamed a lot with 560Ti 2gb SLi @ 57 x10, a rig that is basically the performance level as a single 7970. It's fine as a budget way to do surround, but definitely tradeoffs in some games, not possible at all in others. I guess the hoped for single gpu surround didn't materialize. (at least from ATi) __________________ Rig1: intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz 3D Vision Surround Rig 2: intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC [SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member [B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]

12-31-11, 04:41 PM	#127
Rollo Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,719	Re: Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread Thanks for proving my point Roadie. How many of those benches were at the 57x10 res I mentioned? Like I said the hoped for mythical single gpu surround remains the holy grail. __________________ Rig1: intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz 3D Vision Surround Rig 2: intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC [SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member [B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]

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